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We can look into any case we want! If comments start getting out of hand please feel free to report, though. So yeah, if you type in Mr Xs real govt registered name into the old YT, you get a handful of cryptic videos, slideshows with creepy music typical for this sort of thing. The fact that I believe LE has been busy trying to cover up the mistakes they made early on leads me to believe that they inadvertently helped BG get away with this horrendous crime and continue to do so by withholding almost every piece of information possible from the public, while at the same time begging for that one tip they need to make an arrest. In particular, user/tobor is excellent. I must have the wrong name for your POI? We dont just look at the Delphi case here. But they're about as good as they look here. After the girls body was found, at the time of her murder, the local police chased other suspects in connection with the case, but nothing stuck. I dont know if he actually used the binoculars to spot them. The problem here is that before 5:30 PM, no one knew the girls were missing other than the families and a few friends. Is there a place on your site where you can pay/register? He had his keys with him, so why didnt he move his truck when they asked him to instead of lying and saying he couldnt because he had lost his keys? What do they mean hes just a decoy? Your email address will not be published. I want you to know that your comment is no longer there. Good ones and bad ones, perhaps, but theres no such thing as legitimate versus illegitimate. With less than 3,000 residents, Delphi is a town where everyone knows one another, and the murders have greatly affected many locals. Actually there are four suspects in this case and we are not naming any of them. These two men, driving in the younger mans black truck with pink stripe, were witnessed in the vicinity on or near the cemetery road at approximately 5:30 AM February 14, 2017. If I were on the jury, the only thing I would care about was whether the state had proved that Mr. X committed this crime. Thats actually how I was pointed to you because apparently, I copied from you (YouTube actually deleted these comments too ). These are simply unverified rumors. In these cases, we have 4-5 separate sources, usually vaguely referred to as inside sources, testifying to the truth of something. Dont listen to those idiots on Reddit! Did anyone here see the crime scene photo(s)? - reddit He may well have had a deer blind on the Mears property. There is a lot of controversy about that but it does appear that you can hear on the audio, Is that creepy guy still following us?. Two young girls disappear off of an extraordinarily dangerous bridge in the middle of the day when they had plans to be picked up at a specific time? Crime scene photos leaked? : r/LibbyandAbby - reddit They have most recently stated that they want to avoid double jeopardy. I tend to think that it goes deeper than only Mr. X being involved though. Apologies if this has been covered here before, but the rumor that Libby was found shirtless and nearly decapitated and that Abby was found still clothed and posed with her hands folded, does anyone know exactly how it originated and if there is anything circumstantial to back it . I dont know about you, but when I go to a nearby town, I dont generally take my cellphone and throw it in a bunch of weeds for the five hours that I was gone, coming back to my home hours later to retrieve it from the weeds. He killed at least five people, specializing in young women. David shot that down, and he then explained how what he saw differed from these images. Then email me and and I will give you the link and password and I will also let you into the new forum where you can set up your own name and password. We would say it is low. He concurred that a high error rate is normal early in the investigation and he also said that by 4-5 years later, you may well get a much clearer picture of the crime. According to video recovered from one of the victim's phones, Abby or Libby mentioned "gun" as a man approached them, the probable cause affidavit said. Why not join the 240+ members who have already signed up for the best Delphi sleuthing team of all? Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. Thank u. She feels he is a current POI who is working OT to divert attention away from himself and mislead the public. Bruce was noted for having a similar stature to the man seen in the Delphi video, and also wore similar clothes during his St. Louis crime as the man in the video Libby and Abby took. Im getting, at the home!. This GPS device showed that his phone had been at the CPS building from 12-5 on the day of the murders. Only his hands, particularly focused on his bloody, sausage-like knuckles, could be seen with a caption that read after the brawl.. So that means he killed these girls because theyre chicks too! Doesnt sound like a logical progression of thought to me. However, these are all unconfirmed rumors. The version of the suspect sketch in the image was not released until April 2019, so the photo would have been taken at least two years after the murders. Germans sister Kelsey tweeted early Friday: Just know how grateful I am to all of you. No comments for now, any questions please refer to the Carroll County Prosecutors Office. There's a lot going on here for me to try to figure out. For the first time, the warrant reveals that they were killed by some type of weapon but the word is redacted in the document. I find it ironic that he lived close to the Flora fires, and it wouldnt surprise me if he was linked to Evansdale as well. And fb, of course. He was also scared to join her group because I was in there and he was afraid of me. As you can see, the numbers are the same. Thank you for stopping by the site. I cant see where this is! That is the statement from the woman on the search team. The category below Proven is ally called Unverified with Different Qualifications. Allen has been booked into jail, but no details of any charges made against him have been shared. Cop: Come on, man, we know you did it. Its not free though. Our error rate at the moment is probably under 50% and quite possibly lower, even much lower. This was just the most underhanded, disgusting display of we need a fall guy, and LE should be ashamed of themselves. You said in your blog that Mr. X was friends with Ron Logan. I am creating a special article about this to link to in order to deal with the constant hate comments in this regard so I dont have to keep going over this stuff in every update. Pregnancies are also risky for 13 and 14 year old girls. The manner of death has never been revealed. Liberty "Libby" German and Abigail "Abby" Williams. The others are guardians. He has since been moved to a state facility for his own safety. Where is the balance? Now, I have denied knowing something that I actually knew, but that was to protect the integrity of an investigation. Apparently. I cannot remember which girl had taken the photo of the man on the bridge with her cell phone, but I had read somewhere that on that cell phone there was audio of her saying something about a weird man approaching them and that is why she took the photo. Any context? I am friends with one of the parents and to my knowledge, no one has been told if this was sexual or not, only people have speculated. Paul, I know exactly what videos you are talking about on YouTube. The Monon High Bridge trail attracts hunters, fishers, campers and kids hiking or just taking photos of the popular spot. They also acknowledge that SSA, or same sex attraction is a logical process for a lot of men. https://beyondhighbrow.com/2021/04/04/delphi-murders-update-april-4-2021/. A subpoena for an IP address led to another address in Peru, Indiana, and a second search warrant found Kline and his father there. Forget it. Wife left him. A heavily-built man in jeans and a blue jacket could be seen approaching the girls, and in a brief snippet of audio that was released the man could be heard saying 'Down the hill' to the girls. In my experience, this points to chicanery. One problem was we went down the rabbit hole chasing the wrong guy for a couple of years. In the years before his arrest, Miller had left numerous notes in public places saying the killer of Tinsley would strike again. Theres a knife that he used to kill the girls. I dont know, FIELDS! Stop. 11) I see his home. First, a pitch for support for this website and our sleuthing group: Our private group is clearly the best Delphi sleuthing group on the Internet by far and has been since it was founded four years ago in 2017. You will see below where we regard certain things as Proven. The warrant indicated that an FBI agent said Logans voice is not inconsistent with that of the person in the video.. Hello, i live in cedar rapids , ia. Dolls were hanging from trees at the crime scene. I like some of these guys. The girls' bloodied bodies were found about a half mile from the bridge. Oh theyre not made by him. Is he into numerology? They recovered Libbys phone, so they wouldnt still be looking for the audio/video. However, shouldnt that same exact principle/logic apply to Mr. X? Only if he had sent this much audio to one of the girls phones after the crime. R/LibbyandAbby does allow rumors and speculations, so at least they get some good posts and posters, while the overall mood is still a downer. 24/7 coverage of breaking news and live events. I estimate that 85% of what we said here in past years has been shown to be false over time. I dont know if the bridge was within eyeshot of the spot where the girls were found. This is simply because Ive dared to question if its possible that he was involved in any capacity or if its possible that he made misleading statements. This sub is for discussion of the case that's come to be known as the Delphi Murders. No one knows if he did this crime or not. This is getting ridiculous. The killer in the unsolved Delphi murders is believed to have moved and staged the victims bodies and taken a souvenir from their 2017 slayings, according to newly-surfaced police documents. Required fields are marked *. Good job though, because you confirm much of what Ive seen. Chemicals used in an attempt to hide fingerprints. In a blown-up pic of him, you can clearly see that it has the shape of handcuffs. "In a small town, in a place where there's a small amount of traffic on this abandoned railroad bridge your suspect pool is fairly small," Garrett said, so police likely concentrated their investigation on Delphi and the surrounding communities. Not long afterwards, the pink stripe was removed from the truck, witnesses say. Delphi Murders if bodies were staged or posed what does that say about the killer Found an interesting article regarding the act of stating and posing bodies. One of his many interesting hobbies was abducting and raping young women. Get real. What Do the Alleged Leaked Text Messages About Delphi Murders Mean? and that he was likely familiar with the Monon High Bridge. Finally, after five long years, the Indiana State Police has charged a 50-year-old local man with the Delphi murders of two teenage best friends, Libby German and Abby Williams. Thats a GoPro on BGs waist and he filmed his crime. Closeup of the 'fanny pack'. He has dealt with his grief with silence and hiding himself away. You can't obtain things through FOIA that would interfere with an ongoing investigation nor would they just be posted somewhere for this person to get. BG is a 50 year old man and the three other men are younger, age 17-26. I read through it early on, saw interesting stuff and then later came back and tried to find the interesting stuff but got lost. Also stated that Abby survived the initial attack and she crawled towards Libby. Anyway, LE believes that Bridge Guy is Mr. X. Theyre not looking at anyone else. Police Handout. If LE actually believes that BG was 50 years old, why did they put out this statement that he looks like this ridiculous sketch of a very young man or even an 18-40 year old man? Not because theres any evidence that they were lookouts, but more because everyone in that situation at the time of the murders is being looked at that way. A user allegedly shared them on a FB group a few days ago. I dont know what these names mean. And if it was 43 seconds, it would be on Libbys phone! Lists a factory as place of residence. The shot showed Allen smiling with his wife, while in the background over his shoulder - mere feet away - a police sketch of of the Delphi murder suspect could be seen posted by a notice board on the wall. If he didnt have his keys, he could not move his truck. This person was going to share the pictures regardless, they just wanted to be asked first to make themselves feel better is my guess. You cannot keep your own story straight. The two dates - 2/13/2017 & 2/13/2012 are the same in numerology (16): 2+1+3+2+0+1+7 = 16 and 7+1+3/+2+0+1+2 = 16. How many journalists do you know who actually went to J-school and have J-degrees? These are the facts about the man LE suspects is BG. Garrett said he's solved homicide cases that way, because typically a perpetrator buys a gun legally near his or her home, he said. This would explain how he could control two teens from running away as well as using a fake gun and badge. Kelsi has been investigated quite a bit, and she has been interviewed a few times by the FBI, including a couple of times at her school. Even after the girls were recovered, Mr. X stayed around through all of the media and police hubbub for the next eight hours, from 12:30 PM to 8:30 PM, so his truck was out at the crime scene for 26 full hours, with Mr X presumably with it the entire time. Cookie Notice The 2017 murder of Abby and Libby became notorious after investigators released chilling footage the girls recorded of a man following and approaching them across the Manon High Bridge. Kline is said to have arranged to meet with Libby on the Delphi High Bridge the day before she was murdered while walking along it. Delphi Murders - Bodys Posed - LifeUnited New Delphi suspect sketch released on 4/22/19. Hes innocent. But ive also read (this is a rumorif not OK i will delete) that they girls were found apart. The killer contacted Libby on social media using the "catfish" of a young man aged 19. In an Oct. 13, 2022, interview, Allen told police he saw juvenile girls on the trails east of Freedom Bridge and said he went onto the Monon High Bridge, near where the girls were killed. Or wet sneaker. Yes, I know. I believe Mr. X is the guy. Didnt he at the time live down the street from Logan? But answer me this. Any info you can get us on this will be much appreciated! BTW whats up with all the psychic stuff? An Indiana bar owner has revealed that the suspect arrested in the Delphi massacre of two teenage girls was a patron at his inn who often sat inches away from police sketches of the wanted killer. FSG along with others present at the bridge have been investigated as possible lookouts for BG. If the father was an underage boy, Im not sure anyone cares. Always. The reason why I didnt send the letter was because I was moving across country and strongly felt as though law enforcement would not take my views seriously. I think he may have had over 1,000 photos/videos on his drives or possibly more. Keep perusing to discover what the supposed Delphi Murders leaked text messages are about. No, the other girl was also having sex with males and she also had a boyfriend. Leave this poor man alone, for Gods sake. He took an undocumented deer trail and evaded the encountering of any individual upon his departure. I wont reveal who I am talking about here though it should be obvious. What it does do, however, is make LE appear to be slightly less incompetent for calling off that search if Abby and Libby were confirmed to have been deceased before the search even started. Amazing work! Please refresh the page or navigate to another page on the site to be automatically logged inPlease refresh your browser to be logged in, Shocking new details have come to light about the murders of best friends Libby German, 14, and Abby Williams, 13, in a search warrant obtained by podcast The Murder Sheet and shared with The Independent, Find your bookmarks in your Independent Premium section, under my profile, This grainy image was taken on Libbys phone on the trail the day the girls went missing. We may or may not have from 1-8 more official case documents from this case. That would have been quite a problem. A Murder at Penn State; The case of Dana Bailey. But that too could have been either misleading or true. We believe Mr. X stayed with the truck all that time in order to watch it. FSG, or DMC: Probably shouldnt use his real name, but hes on everybodys suspect list. Wouldnt 13-14 year old girls be past dolls and stuffed animals? They werent that close. Ok he has committed some sort of sex crimes or other or weird crimes like peeping and whatnot. In the search warrant application parts of which are redacted the agent reveals that the murderer would have been covered in the victims blood due to the large amount of blood was lost by the victims at the crime scene. They have also suggested that the crime scene was odd in nature. Do you feel that the KAK (Anthony_shots) announcement is a red herring or that its linked to the Delphi murders? Mr Xs alibi is it true that the person who is now deceased is a police officer who committed suicide? movements and events. Robert, I believe Mr. X has an ex-wife. The warrant, obtained by the Murder Sheet podcast and released to Indianapolis FOX59, offered no further detail on what the souvenir was, although it did say that 'the rest of [the girls'] clothing was recovered,' implying that the killer had taken something they'd been wearing. Offers may be subject to change without notice. And Mr X was involved in a Christian teen club! 8 Weirdly Specific True Crime Shows That Actually Exist, Chris Watts Bombed His Polygraph Test, and It Led to His Confession, Where Is Convicted Murderer Jeffrey MacDonald Now? Are they deliberately lying to us? We believe he staged the crime with these elaborate props either before or after the crime from this exact location. Instead of telling me to "look up" this or that, and hinting , somewhat, at theories,why not just state the theory . The full clip is reportedly 43 seconds long, but its contents are believed to be too disturbing to share in full. Indiana police looked into Bruce in connection to the Delphi murders, but no charges have been handed down. On February 14, 2017, the bodies of Abigail "Abby" Williams and Liberty "Libby" German were discovered off a hiking trail in Delphi, Indiana, United States, after the young girls had disappeared from the same trail the previous day. Richard Allen, a 50-year-old Delphi man, was arrested last month. Allen is a married pharmaceutical technician. Face is in quotes because it's likely my mind just making a rational picture out of sticks and tree trunks. She described his eyes as dark and evil. Been following your blog from the start, and this is so close to what I have been feeling for a while now. Its odd how there is that other photo of what looks like BG sitting on park bench. On and on. He states when he got home that night (13th) one of his neighbors had came over to ask if he could search his property, looking for the girls. I almost have to wonder if thats why he later concocted the story about the keys, perhaps as an afterthought when he realized it would be hard to explain why he asked to search for the girls but then didnt find them somehow, Uhh I was more focused on finding my keys, I must have overlooked the two dead girls I was looking for in the first place.. I think this whole crime scene was severely compromised but still doable Blood, Sex Staging, Fiber Evidence: Chilling New Details in Murder of The probable cause affidavit did reveal that clothes belonging to the girls were found in a creek south of where their bodies were discovered. 21:06 GMT 30 Oct 2022 RL couldnt have done it because he was violating the terms of his probation and was caught on camera drinking in a pizza parlor. No, I wasnt aware that she existed. I also have to disagree with you about your criticism of the police for calling off the search at 3 AM. Neither Kegan nor Tony Kline can be placed at the bridge on that day or on any other day for that matter. Even after the arrest of a suspect on Oct. 26, police have declined to answer most questions about the case, saying they don't want to jeopardize the prosecution. We doubt if she did contact his wife. Thats not very many. The profile was used from 2016 to 2017 on platforms including Snapchat and Instagram and used photos of a known male model, portraying him as being extremely wealthy and owning numerous sports cars. Welcome to the site! We all go through shit in our lives, but if she wants to stop making enemies, she can stop picking fights. Photos of Abby Williams, left, and Libby German, right, at police headquarters in Delphi, Indiana. He was 18 in 1984, so we figured he graduated that year, but maybe he graduated in 1986 when he was 20. -- New details have come to light in the unsolved Delphi, Indiana, double murder investigation with the publication of a police interview with a man who, according to transcripts . Staging vs. Posing in the RL document it says the bodies were staged People may receive compensation for some links to products and services on this website. What are the odds that both parties made up these specific lies on their own? Thats why he has those Packers boots on. He lives in an ivory colored mobile looking home within the country. R/LibbyandAbby is awful, but its a lot better than r/DelphiMurders. That piece of information being leaked and generally accepted by the public doesnt do a damn thing to preserve the integrity of the investigation.. He parked 1,000 feet away from Rons door, almost a quarter mile away. Photo: Courtesy Mike and Becky Patty. No, LK is the real deal. If they were killed right away, its no problem, but if they were not killed until 12 hours later, its one more thing that makes no sense. I hav followed both cases very closely. Delphi Timeline | Actus Reus He went away for a bit and came back a while later with proof from LE that some of the things we have been reporting as rumors here are absolute fact. Staging- by definition means they were placed/posed pre or post mortem a certain way. Number 6, an extremely controversial statement, was told to JM and then to us by a sheriff in a nearby county. If you have heard about this case and wish to discuss it, feel free. I dont know why that stood out to me. Via LE Source A, Mr. X s roommate in 2011-2012 in Delphi told LE that BG was absolutely Mr. X. There is also the possibility that the act itself created the impression of posing when in fact it was not. That can only mean one thing. Most of these podcasts are silly speculation or talk about POIs who are all ruled out. I find it notable that not much has been said about the danger to others, I think it has been said that it could not be excluded, but I have not seen any emphatic warnings. Kelsis DNA was the only DNA found on the bodies. Privacy Policy. Deals with gruesome matters concerning the brutal sex murders of four female minors mostly about two young teenage girls aged 13 and 14 but also a bit about related murders of two little girls aged 8 and 10. But all theories must be judged against their competitors (Occams). Possibly works with kids. Dads not talking. I could be completely off base and change my mind tomorrow. There were definitely some perverse acts done to these girls, but I believe they were done to them after they were already dead. Within a ditch along a country road on her way home from school shortly after her murder.

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We can look into any case we want! If comments start getting out of hand please feel free to report, though. So yeah, if you type in Mr Xs real govt registered name into the old YT, you get a handful of cryptic videos, slideshows with creepy music typical for this sort of thing. The fact that I believe LE has been busy trying to cover up the mistakes they made early on leads me to believe that they inadvertently helped BG get away with this horrendous crime and continue to do so by withholding almost every piece of information possible from the public, while at the same time begging for that one tip they need to make an arrest. In particular, user/tobor is excellent. I must have the wrong name for your POI? We dont just look at the Delphi case here. But they're about as good as they look here. After the girls body was found, at the time of her murder, the local police chased other suspects in connection with the case, but nothing stuck. I dont know if he actually used the binoculars to spot them. The problem here is that before 5:30 PM, no one knew the girls were missing other than the families and a few friends. Is there a place on your site where you can pay/register? He had his keys with him, so why didnt he move his truck when they asked him to instead of lying and saying he couldnt because he had lost his keys? What do they mean hes just a decoy? Your email address will not be published. I want you to know that your comment is no longer there. Good ones and bad ones, perhaps, but theres no such thing as legitimate versus illegitimate. With less than 3,000 residents, Delphi is a town where everyone knows one another, and the murders have greatly affected many locals. Actually there are four suspects in this case and we are not naming any of them. These two men, driving in the younger mans black truck with pink stripe, were witnessed in the vicinity on or near the cemetery road at approximately 5:30 AM February 14, 2017. If I were on the jury, the only thing I would care about was whether the state had proved that Mr. X committed this crime. Thats actually how I was pointed to you because apparently, I copied from you (YouTube actually deleted these comments too ). These are simply unverified rumors. In these cases, we have 4-5 separate sources, usually vaguely referred to as inside sources, testifying to the truth of something. Dont listen to those idiots on Reddit! Did anyone here see the crime scene photo(s)? - reddit He may well have had a deer blind on the Mears property. There is a lot of controversy about that but it does appear that you can hear on the audio, Is that creepy guy still following us?. Two young girls disappear off of an extraordinarily dangerous bridge in the middle of the day when they had plans to be picked up at a specific time? Crime scene photos leaked? : r/LibbyandAbby - reddit They have most recently stated that they want to avoid double jeopardy. I tend to think that it goes deeper than only Mr. X being involved though. Apologies if this has been covered here before, but the rumor that Libby was found shirtless and nearly decapitated and that Abby was found still clothed and posed with her hands folded, does anyone know exactly how it originated and if there is anything circumstantial to back it . I dont know about you, but when I go to a nearby town, I dont generally take my cellphone and throw it in a bunch of weeds for the five hours that I was gone, coming back to my home hours later to retrieve it from the weeds. He killed at least five people, specializing in young women. David shot that down, and he then explained how what he saw differed from these images. Then email me and and I will give you the link and password and I will also let you into the new forum where you can set up your own name and password. We would say it is low. He concurred that a high error rate is normal early in the investigation and he also said that by 4-5 years later, you may well get a much clearer picture of the crime. According to video recovered from one of the victim's phones, Abby or Libby mentioned "gun" as a man approached them, the probable cause affidavit said. Why not join the 240+ members who have already signed up for the best Delphi sleuthing team of all? Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. Thank u. She feels he is a current POI who is working OT to divert attention away from himself and mislead the public. Bruce was noted for having a similar stature to the man seen in the Delphi video, and also wore similar clothes during his St. Louis crime as the man in the video Libby and Abby took. Im getting, at the home!. This GPS device showed that his phone had been at the CPS building from 12-5 on the day of the murders. Only his hands, particularly focused on his bloody, sausage-like knuckles, could be seen with a caption that read after the brawl.. So that means he killed these girls because theyre chicks too! Doesnt sound like a logical progression of thought to me. However, these are all unconfirmed rumors. The version of the suspect sketch in the image was not released until April 2019, so the photo would have been taken at least two years after the murders. Germans sister Kelsey tweeted early Friday: Just know how grateful I am to all of you. No comments for now, any questions please refer to the Carroll County Prosecutors Office. There's a lot going on here for me to try to figure out. For the first time, the warrant reveals that they were killed by some type of weapon but the word is redacted in the document. I find it ironic that he lived close to the Flora fires, and it wouldnt surprise me if he was linked to Evansdale as well. And fb, of course. He was also scared to join her group because I was in there and he was afraid of me. As you can see, the numbers are the same. Thank you for stopping by the site. I cant see where this is! That is the statement from the woman on the search team. The category below Proven is ally called Unverified with Different Qualifications. Allen has been booked into jail, but no details of any charges made against him have been shared. Cop: Come on, man, we know you did it. Its not free though. Our error rate at the moment is probably under 50% and quite possibly lower, even much lower. This was just the most underhanded, disgusting display of we need a fall guy, and LE should be ashamed of themselves. You said in your blog that Mr. X was friends with Ron Logan. I am creating a special article about this to link to in order to deal with the constant hate comments in this regard so I dont have to keep going over this stuff in every update. Pregnancies are also risky for 13 and 14 year old girls. The manner of death has never been revealed. Liberty "Libby" German and Abigail "Abby" Williams. The others are guardians. He has since been moved to a state facility for his own safety. Where is the balance? Now, I have denied knowing something that I actually knew, but that was to protect the integrity of an investigation. Apparently. I cannot remember which girl had taken the photo of the man on the bridge with her cell phone, but I had read somewhere that on that cell phone there was audio of her saying something about a weird man approaching them and that is why she took the photo. Any context? I am friends with one of the parents and to my knowledge, no one has been told if this was sexual or not, only people have speculated. Paul, I know exactly what videos you are talking about on YouTube. The Monon High Bridge trail attracts hunters, fishers, campers and kids hiking or just taking photos of the popular spot. They also acknowledge that SSA, or same sex attraction is a logical process for a lot of men. https://beyondhighbrow.com/2021/04/04/delphi-murders-update-april-4-2021/. A subpoena for an IP address led to another address in Peru, Indiana, and a second search warrant found Kline and his father there. Forget it. Wife left him. A heavily-built man in jeans and a blue jacket could be seen approaching the girls, and in a brief snippet of audio that was released the man could be heard saying 'Down the hill' to the girls. In my experience, this points to chicanery. One problem was we went down the rabbit hole chasing the wrong guy for a couple of years. In the years before his arrest, Miller had left numerous notes in public places saying the killer of Tinsley would strike again. Theres a knife that he used to kill the girls. I dont know, FIELDS! Stop. 11) I see his home. First, a pitch for support for this website and our sleuthing group: Our private group is clearly the best Delphi sleuthing group on the Internet by far and has been since it was founded four years ago in 2017. You will see below where we regard certain things as Proven. The warrant indicated that an FBI agent said Logans voice is not inconsistent with that of the person in the video.. Hello, i live in cedar rapids , ia. Dolls were hanging from trees at the crime scene. I like some of these guys. The girls' bloodied bodies were found about a half mile from the bridge. Oh theyre not made by him. Is he into numerology? They recovered Libbys phone, so they wouldnt still be looking for the audio/video. However, shouldnt that same exact principle/logic apply to Mr. X? Only if he had sent this much audio to one of the girls phones after the crime. R/LibbyandAbby does allow rumors and speculations, so at least they get some good posts and posters, while the overall mood is still a downer. 24/7 coverage of breaking news and live events. I estimate that 85% of what we said here in past years has been shown to be false over time. I dont know if the bridge was within eyeshot of the spot where the girls were found. This is simply because Ive dared to question if its possible that he was involved in any capacity or if its possible that he made misleading statements. This sub is for discussion of the case that's come to be known as the Delphi Murders. No one knows if he did this crime or not. This is getting ridiculous. The killer in the unsolved Delphi murders is believed to have moved and staged the victims bodies and taken a souvenir from their 2017 slayings, according to newly-surfaced police documents. Required fields are marked *. Good job though, because you confirm much of what Ive seen. Chemicals used in an attempt to hide fingerprints. In a blown-up pic of him, you can clearly see that it has the shape of handcuffs. "In a small town, in a place where there's a small amount of traffic on this abandoned railroad bridge your suspect pool is fairly small," Garrett said, so police likely concentrated their investigation on Delphi and the surrounding communities. Not long afterwards, the pink stripe was removed from the truck, witnesses say. Delphi Murders if bodies were staged or posed what does that say about the killer Found an interesting article regarding the act of stating and posing bodies. One of his many interesting hobbies was abducting and raping young women. Get real. What Do the Alleged Leaked Text Messages About Delphi Murders Mean? and that he was likely familiar with the Monon High Bridge. Finally, after five long years, the Indiana State Police has charged a 50-year-old local man with the Delphi murders of two teenage best friends, Libby German and Abby Williams. Thats a GoPro on BGs waist and he filmed his crime. Closeup of the 'fanny pack'. He has dealt with his grief with silence and hiding himself away. You can't obtain things through FOIA that would interfere with an ongoing investigation nor would they just be posted somewhere for this person to get. BG is a 50 year old man and the three other men are younger, age 17-26. I read through it early on, saw interesting stuff and then later came back and tried to find the interesting stuff but got lost. Also stated that Abby survived the initial attack and she crawled towards Libby. Anyway, LE believes that Bridge Guy is Mr. X. Theyre not looking at anyone else. Police Handout. If LE actually believes that BG was 50 years old, why did they put out this statement that he looks like this ridiculous sketch of a very young man or even an 18-40 year old man? Not because theres any evidence that they were lookouts, but more because everyone in that situation at the time of the murders is being looked at that way. A user allegedly shared them on a FB group a few days ago. I dont know what these names mean. And if it was 43 seconds, it would be on Libbys phone! Lists a factory as place of residence. The shot showed Allen smiling with his wife, while in the background over his shoulder - mere feet away - a police sketch of of the Delphi murder suspect could be seen posted by a notice board on the wall. If he didnt have his keys, he could not move his truck. This person was going to share the pictures regardless, they just wanted to be asked first to make themselves feel better is my guess. You cannot keep your own story straight. The two dates - 2/13/2017 & 2/13/2012 are the same in numerology (16): 2+1+3+2+0+1+7 = 16 and 7+1+3/+2+0+1+2 = 16. How many journalists do you know who actually went to J-school and have J-degrees? These are the facts about the man LE suspects is BG. Garrett said he's solved homicide cases that way, because typically a perpetrator buys a gun legally near his or her home, he said. This would explain how he could control two teens from running away as well as using a fake gun and badge. Kelsi has been investigated quite a bit, and she has been interviewed a few times by the FBI, including a couple of times at her school. Even after the girls were recovered, Mr. X stayed around through all of the media and police hubbub for the next eight hours, from 12:30 PM to 8:30 PM, so his truck was out at the crime scene for 26 full hours, with Mr X presumably with it the entire time. Cookie Notice The 2017 murder of Abby and Libby became notorious after investigators released chilling footage the girls recorded of a man following and approaching them across the Manon High Bridge. Kline is said to have arranged to meet with Libby on the Delphi High Bridge the day before she was murdered while walking along it. Delphi Murders - Bodys Posed - LifeUnited New Delphi suspect sketch released on 4/22/19. Hes innocent. But ive also read (this is a rumorif not OK i will delete) that they girls were found apart. The killer contacted Libby on social media using the "catfish" of a young man aged 19. In an Oct. 13, 2022, interview, Allen told police he saw juvenile girls on the trails east of Freedom Bridge and said he went onto the Monon High Bridge, near where the girls were killed. Or wet sneaker. Yes, I know. I believe Mr. X is the guy. Didnt he at the time live down the street from Logan? But answer me this. Any info you can get us on this will be much appreciated! BTW whats up with all the psychic stuff? An Indiana bar owner has revealed that the suspect arrested in the Delphi massacre of two teenage girls was a patron at his inn who often sat inches away from police sketches of the wanted killer. FSG along with others present at the bridge have been investigated as possible lookouts for BG. If the father was an underage boy, Im not sure anyone cares. Always. The reason why I didnt send the letter was because I was moving across country and strongly felt as though law enforcement would not take my views seriously. I think he may have had over 1,000 photos/videos on his drives or possibly more. Keep perusing to discover what the supposed Delphi Murders leaked text messages are about. No, the other girl was also having sex with males and she also had a boyfriend. Leave this poor man alone, for Gods sake. He took an undocumented deer trail and evaded the encountering of any individual upon his departure. I wont reveal who I am talking about here though it should be obvious. What it does do, however, is make LE appear to be slightly less incompetent for calling off that search if Abby and Libby were confirmed to have been deceased before the search even started. Amazing work! Please refresh the page or navigate to another page on the site to be automatically logged inPlease refresh your browser to be logged in, Shocking new details have come to light about the murders of best friends Libby German, 14, and Abby Williams, 13, in a search warrant obtained by podcast The Murder Sheet and shared with The Independent, Find your bookmarks in your Independent Premium section, under my profile, This grainy image was taken on Libbys phone on the trail the day the girls went missing. We may or may not have from 1-8 more official case documents from this case. That would have been quite a problem. A Murder at Penn State; The case of Dana Bailey. But that too could have been either misleading or true. We believe Mr. X stayed with the truck all that time in order to watch it. FSG, or DMC: Probably shouldnt use his real name, but hes on everybodys suspect list. Wouldnt 13-14 year old girls be past dolls and stuffed animals? They werent that close. Ok he has committed some sort of sex crimes or other or weird crimes like peeping and whatnot. In the search warrant application parts of which are redacted the agent reveals that the murderer would have been covered in the victims blood due to the large amount of blood was lost by the victims at the crime scene. They have also suggested that the crime scene was odd in nature. Do you feel that the KAK (Anthony_shots) announcement is a red herring or that its linked to the Delphi murders? Mr Xs alibi is it true that the person who is now deceased is a police officer who committed suicide? movements and events. Robert, I believe Mr. X has an ex-wife. The warrant, obtained by the Murder Sheet podcast and released to Indianapolis FOX59, offered no further detail on what the souvenir was, although it did say that 'the rest of [the girls'] clothing was recovered,' implying that the killer had taken something they'd been wearing. Offers may be subject to change without notice. And Mr X was involved in a Christian teen club! 8 Weirdly Specific True Crime Shows That Actually Exist, Chris Watts Bombed His Polygraph Test, and It Led to His Confession, Where Is Convicted Murderer Jeffrey MacDonald Now? Are they deliberately lying to us? We believe he staged the crime with these elaborate props either before or after the crime from this exact location. Instead of telling me to "look up" this or that, and hinting , somewhat, at theories,why not just state the theory . The full clip is reportedly 43 seconds long, but its contents are believed to be too disturbing to share in full. Indiana police looked into Bruce in connection to the Delphi murders, but no charges have been handed down. On February 14, 2017, the bodies of Abigail "Abby" Williams and Liberty "Libby" German were discovered off a hiking trail in Delphi, Indiana, United States, after the young girls had disappeared from the same trail the previous day. Richard Allen, a 50-year-old Delphi man, was arrested last month. Allen is a married pharmaceutical technician. Face is in quotes because it's likely my mind just making a rational picture out of sticks and tree trunks. She described his eyes as dark and evil. Been following your blog from the start, and this is so close to what I have been feeling for a while now. Its odd how there is that other photo of what looks like BG sitting on park bench. On and on. He states when he got home that night (13th) one of his neighbors had came over to ask if he could search his property, looking for the girls. I almost have to wonder if thats why he later concocted the story about the keys, perhaps as an afterthought when he realized it would be hard to explain why he asked to search for the girls but then didnt find them somehow, Uhh I was more focused on finding my keys, I must have overlooked the two dead girls I was looking for in the first place.. I think this whole crime scene was severely compromised but still doable Blood, Sex Staging, Fiber Evidence: Chilling New Details in Murder of The probable cause affidavit did reveal that clothes belonging to the girls were found in a creek south of where their bodies were discovered. 21:06 GMT 30 Oct 2022 RL couldnt have done it because he was violating the terms of his probation and was caught on camera drinking in a pizza parlor. No, I wasnt aware that she existed. I also have to disagree with you about your criticism of the police for calling off the search at 3 AM. Neither Kegan nor Tony Kline can be placed at the bridge on that day or on any other day for that matter. Even after the arrest of a suspect on Oct. 26, police have declined to answer most questions about the case, saying they don't want to jeopardize the prosecution. We doubt if she did contact his wife. Thats not very many. The profile was used from 2016 to 2017 on platforms including Snapchat and Instagram and used photos of a known male model, portraying him as being extremely wealthy and owning numerous sports cars. Welcome to the site! We all go through shit in our lives, but if she wants to stop making enemies, she can stop picking fights. Photos of Abby Williams, left, and Libby German, right, at police headquarters in Delphi, Indiana. He was 18 in 1984, so we figured he graduated that year, but maybe he graduated in 1986 when he was 20. -- New details have come to light in the unsolved Delphi, Indiana, double murder investigation with the publication of a police interview with a man who, according to transcripts . Staging vs. Posing in the RL document it says the bodies were staged People may receive compensation for some links to products and services on this website. What are the odds that both parties made up these specific lies on their own? Thats why he has those Packers boots on. He lives in an ivory colored mobile looking home within the country. R/LibbyandAbby is awful, but its a lot better than r/DelphiMurders. That piece of information being leaked and generally accepted by the public doesnt do a damn thing to preserve the integrity of the investigation.. He parked 1,000 feet away from Rons door, almost a quarter mile away. Photo: Courtesy Mike and Becky Patty. No, LK is the real deal. If they were killed right away, its no problem, but if they were not killed until 12 hours later, its one more thing that makes no sense. I hav followed both cases very closely. Delphi Timeline | Actus Reus He went away for a bit and came back a while later with proof from LE that some of the things we have been reporting as rumors here are absolute fact. Staging- by definition means they were placed/posed pre or post mortem a certain way. Number 6, an extremely controversial statement, was told to JM and then to us by a sheriff in a nearby county. If you have heard about this case and wish to discuss it, feel free. I dont know why that stood out to me. Via LE Source A, Mr. X s roommate in 2011-2012 in Delphi told LE that BG was absolutely Mr. X. There is also the possibility that the act itself created the impression of posing when in fact it was not. That can only mean one thing. Most of these podcasts are silly speculation or talk about POIs who are all ruled out. I find it notable that not much has been said about the danger to others, I think it has been said that it could not be excluded, but I have not seen any emphatic warnings. Kelsis DNA was the only DNA found on the bodies. Privacy Policy. Deals with gruesome matters concerning the brutal sex murders of four female minors mostly about two young teenage girls aged 13 and 14 but also a bit about related murders of two little girls aged 8 and 10. But all theories must be judged against their competitors (Occams). Possibly works with kids. Dads not talking. I could be completely off base and change my mind tomorrow. There were definitely some perverse acts done to these girls, but I believe they were done to them after they were already dead. Within a ditch along a country road on her way home from school shortly after her murder. 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